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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Malin Tjerngren</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malin Tjerngren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank You Kat for putting written words to what a lot of us think but do not take the time to write down. I agree with you fully - but you already know that I think ;)  love you / Malin Tjerngren aka Willhelmina Weydehartz, Nordmark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Kat for putting written words to what a lot of us think but do not take the time to write down. I agree with you fully &#8211; but you already know that I think <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   love you / Malin Tjerngren aka Willhelmina Weydehartz, Nordmark</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Kellie (Hrefna Gunnars dottir)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellie (Hrefna Gunnars dottir)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your post is definitely well written. We have made adjustments for folks in a feast due to allergies and it was both time consuming and a tad aggitating. We had complaints as well... but you can&#039;t please everyone. There is no way.

I start my research on the internet, but I end up with books. The internet is a great place to get a list of the books that will help in your research.... whether from a bibliography or being able to buy. I still prefer books over the internet though. 

I wanted to comment on the competition aspect. I have seen the other side of the coin, unfortunately. I was a single mother with two young boys when I first came into the wonderful fold of the SCA. I was constantly reminded by the occasional &quot;Period Police&quot; that my material of my dress or the boys&#039; garments was not period. That some of the items I used for feast were not period. I even heard the comment about how my tent was not period. At the time, that was all I could afford. I have been playing for 10 years now... and we are just starting to work on a period tent. Slow process.  

I think, no matter what, (whether you have elaborate items or just a few basics)in the end people need to remember... 1. It is a Hobby. 2. We do it for fun. 3. Most of us do not have jobs that provide the money to play to the extent we may want, because no matter what we Scadians always find something more that we want to try. and 4. Again, it is a HOBBY. =) 

Touching on the feeling of welcome into the SCA. It is unfortunate, but I have heard about and seen where a newcomer is ignored. I think some Scadians forget that not everyone is outgoing and that sometimes people just don&#039;t know how to approach strangers. We have a newcomers night in our meetings (Our Barony meets weekly) and we celebrate our newcomers. People in the Barony donate items and the newcomers are put into a drawing to pick from the items. We also have Socials and Movie nights. It gives some time to just... have fun.

Currently, my family is working toward a period encampment. That is our goal. It is a slow process, but some day. 

Thank you for your post and those of the others. (sorry about rambling)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is definitely well written. We have made adjustments for folks in a feast due to allergies and it was both time consuming and a tad aggitating. We had complaints as well&#8230; but you can&#8217;t please everyone. There is no way.</p>
<p>I start my research on the internet, but I end up with books. The internet is a great place to get a list of the books that will help in your research&#8230;. whether from a bibliography or being able to buy. I still prefer books over the internet though. </p>
<p>I wanted to comment on the competition aspect. I have seen the other side of the coin, unfortunately. I was a single mother with two young boys when I first came into the wonderful fold of the SCA. I was constantly reminded by the occasional &#8220;Period Police&#8221; that my material of my dress or the boys&#8217; garments was not period. That some of the items I used for feast were not period. I even heard the comment about how my tent was not period. At the time, that was all I could afford. I have been playing for 10 years now&#8230; and we are just starting to work on a period tent. Slow process.  </p>
<p>I think, no matter what, (whether you have elaborate items or just a few basics)in the end people need to remember&#8230; 1. It is a Hobby. 2. We do it for fun. 3. Most of us do not have jobs that provide the money to play to the extent we may want, because no matter what we Scadians always find something more that we want to try. and 4. Again, it is a HOBBY. =) </p>
<p>Touching on the feeling of welcome into the SCA. It is unfortunate, but I have heard about and seen where a newcomer is ignored. I think some Scadians forget that not everyone is outgoing and that sometimes people just don&#8217;t know how to approach strangers. We have a newcomers night in our meetings (Our Barony meets weekly) and we celebrate our newcomers. People in the Barony donate items and the newcomers are put into a drawing to pick from the items. We also have Socials and Movie nights. It gives some time to just&#8230; have fun.</p>
<p>Currently, my family is working toward a period encampment. That is our goal. It is a slow process, but some day. </p>
<p>Thank you for your post and those of the others. (sorry about rambling)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Lady Mairin O'Cadhla</title>
		<link>http://textiletimetravels.org/2012/01/20/sometimes-we-forget/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lady Mairin O'Cadhla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A huge Vivat for this article, you hit alot of points I have notice within society. Many of which happen in my local and kingdom groups in the USA. So its not just your area of the world, its a attitude issue. I think there will always be those &quot;Keeping up with the Jones&quot; feelings in the SCA. As long as there are people there will be someone putting another down for their accomplishments. Its unfortunate but true. 

 Though a trick is to challenge the &quot;naysayers&quot; head on: I try to engage those folks to learn more about my hobby and willing to teach them more. Some are receptive and some folks just want to pick on someone for one thing or another.  My theory if you are not having fun you may want to look at yourself and ask why and fix it. Its not fun to ruin everyone elses time with gossip. 

The SCA is one melding pot of personalities, interests and time periods. When you have this many influences things will be interesting. The SCA is like stone soup, you never know what someone is going to throw in the cook pot next. 

Speaking of cooking, its only common sense to bring extra food in case you can&#039;t eat what is served for any reason. Its impossible to plan for every situation and allergy, would never expect the feastocrat to do so. Its ridiculous to expect this burden to be solved by the event staff. As far as food costs, my shire has cost for feast listed separate and menu at troll in case someone has a question, so that does help with those who may not be able to eat certain things. Also can plan to go get food later when feast is happening and planning costs of food and such. I don&#039;t have food allergies but I have friends that do and I try to take that into consideration but sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn&#039;t.  Packing for a SCA event I bring more than I need, my poor car. Though its best to be prepared, you never know and doesnt hurts to plan ahead.

 I agree alot of us work really hard at our passions within the SCA. I am that person who is always making new renaissance garb. Yeah my wardrobe is huge but I have been participating since 2004, so yeah I got trunks of garb. Though lots of it has short cuts from when I started, though as everything I learned more about period sewing and pattern making. They still it look fantastic and were done with the materials I could afford at the time. Just because my newer gowns are more period correct doesn&#039;t make the old ones worthless. 

They are each a wearable learning experience, some I have sold other I keep for various reasons. Either way our journey in the SCA will always be marked with triumphs or defeats, and it all comes down to personality outlook. Do you learn from your mistakes? What can you do better next time? And is all the investment really worth the toil and outcome? Whenever I evaluate my time in the SCA, so far the answer for most things is yes its worth it.  

Thank you again for posting this, very informative and accurate challenges we all face from one time to another in or out of society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A huge Vivat for this article, you hit alot of points I have notice within society. Many of which happen in my local and kingdom groups in the USA. So its not just your area of the world, its a attitude issue. I think there will always be those &#8220;Keeping up with the Jones&#8221; feelings in the SCA. As long as there are people there will be someone putting another down for their accomplishments. Its unfortunate but true. </p>
<p> Though a trick is to challenge the &#8220;naysayers&#8221; head on: I try to engage those folks to learn more about my hobby and willing to teach them more. Some are receptive and some folks just want to pick on someone for one thing or another.  My theory if you are not having fun you may want to look at yourself and ask why and fix it. Its not fun to ruin everyone elses time with gossip. </p>
<p>The SCA is one melding pot of personalities, interests and time periods. When you have this many influences things will be interesting. The SCA is like stone soup, you never know what someone is going to throw in the cook pot next. </p>
<p>Speaking of cooking, its only common sense to bring extra food in case you can&#8217;t eat what is served for any reason. Its impossible to plan for every situation and allergy, would never expect the feastocrat to do so. Its ridiculous to expect this burden to be solved by the event staff. As far as food costs, my shire has cost for feast listed separate and menu at troll in case someone has a question, so that does help with those who may not be able to eat certain things. Also can plan to go get food later when feast is happening and planning costs of food and such. I don&#8217;t have food allergies but I have friends that do and I try to take that into consideration but sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t.  Packing for a SCA event I bring more than I need, my poor car. Though its best to be prepared, you never know and doesnt hurts to plan ahead.</p>
<p> I agree alot of us work really hard at our passions within the SCA. I am that person who is always making new renaissance garb. Yeah my wardrobe is huge but I have been participating since 2004, so yeah I got trunks of garb. Though lots of it has short cuts from when I started, though as everything I learned more about period sewing and pattern making. They still it look fantastic and were done with the materials I could afford at the time. Just because my newer gowns are more period correct doesn&#8217;t make the old ones worthless. </p>
<p>They are each a wearable learning experience, some I have sold other I keep for various reasons. Either way our journey in the SCA will always be marked with triumphs or defeats, and it all comes down to personality outlook. Do you learn from your mistakes? What can you do better next time? And is all the investment really worth the toil and outcome? Whenever I evaluate my time in the SCA, so far the answer for most things is yes its worth it.  </p>
<p>Thank you again for posting this, very informative and accurate challenges we all face from one time to another in or out of society.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by FiannaRuaNicMhathuna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FiannaRuaNicMhathuna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your point about peers is quite valid. We had the first prince of ID at our first ever event (I&#039;m ex-seneschal of a college branch), and I looked over the hall to see one of our fencers talking to him like an old friend. I nearly died... But my first and only other experiences of Royalty were rather frigid and strict about using titles and bowing and all the stuff that a lot of others didn&#039;t mind about at all. So I mistakenly believed that all peers were like that, and was overjoyed to discover how wrong I was. 

And not congratulating you on well-deserved awards? Jealousy is a terrible thing to have in a hobby like this. You sound like you&#039;re really throwing yourself into everything, which is only to be admired and rightfully awarded. I would love to cross your path at an event someday and learn a few things from you-- like where you get your energy! 

As for the no water days, Ffair Rhaglen at Raglan Castle in Wales is one of the flagship events of the Principality. Yet if you want a shower you have to stay (or know someone staying) in the motel down the road. Nobody whines about that, but we would like to have better access to water if it extends to more than a week (when it&#039;s this damp even in Summer, driving to get a shower isn&#039;t fun...). Even so, a lot of people bring camping stoves and can access large buckets, and there is a tap/faucet on site. And baby wipes are a great invention and close ally to the mucky student!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point about peers is quite valid. We had the first prince of ID at our first ever event (I&#8217;m ex-seneschal of a college branch), and I looked over the hall to see one of our fencers talking to him like an old friend. I nearly died&#8230; But my first and only other experiences of Royalty were rather frigid and strict about using titles and bowing and all the stuff that a lot of others didn&#8217;t mind about at all. So I mistakenly believed that all peers were like that, and was overjoyed to discover how wrong I was. </p>
<p>And not congratulating you on well-deserved awards? Jealousy is a terrible thing to have in a hobby like this. You sound like you&#8217;re really throwing yourself into everything, which is only to be admired and rightfully awarded. I would love to cross your path at an event someday and learn a few things from you&#8211; like where you get your energy! </p>
<p>As for the no water days, Ffair Rhaglen at Raglan Castle in Wales is one of the flagship events of the Principality. Yet if you want a shower you have to stay (or know someone staying) in the motel down the road. Nobody whines about that, but we would like to have better access to water if it extends to more than a week (when it&#8217;s this damp even in Summer, driving to get a shower isn&#8217;t fun&#8230;). Even so, a lot of people bring camping stoves and can access large buckets, and there is a tap/faucet on site. And baby wipes are a great invention and close ally to the mucky student!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Katheryn Hebenstreitz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katheryn Hebenstreitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Amal for your response!
In Aarnimetsä we are blessed to have a bunch of people with allergies that often offer to cook the food for people with allergies since they themselves know what hassle it is in the main kitchen to cater to ALL allergies.
For instance, at the last Aarnimetsä Academy we had decided to cater to people with lactose intolerance, to have very few courses with almonds/nuts or replace them and something else that I don&#039;t remember. 
Then a bunch of ladies contacted me and said: hey – we are allergic to some more stuff – what if WE take responsibility for cooking for those with allergies and replace the courses they can&#039;t eat?
This was a fantastic offer! And we were blessed with having a small extra kitchen on the site we used so it turned out brilliantly!
And you Amal, set an example by doing this – you go to the kitchen, help out and also make sure that you and some of your fellow allergic participants get some more dishes to eat!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Amal for your response!<br />
In Aarnimetsä we are blessed to have a bunch of people with allergies that often offer to cook the food for people with allergies since they themselves know what hassle it is in the main kitchen to cater to ALL allergies.<br />
For instance, at the last Aarnimetsä Academy we had decided to cater to people with lactose intolerance, to have very few courses with almonds/nuts or replace them and something else that I don&#8217;t remember.<br />
Then a bunch of ladies contacted me and said: hey – we are allergic to some more stuff – what if WE take responsibility for cooking for those with allergies and replace the courses they can&#8217;t eat?<br />
This was a fantastic offer! And we were blessed with having a small extra kitchen on the site we used so it turned out brilliantly!<br />
And you Amal, set an example by doing this – you go to the kitchen, help out and also make sure that you and some of your fellow allergic participants get some more dishes to eat!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Amal binti Hamid Al-Chania</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amal binti Hamid Al-Chania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally have time to comment this post....

I 99% agree with your thoughts and others have wrote down pretty interesting and concuring comments. It&#039;s good to see I have not been the only one, who have been less active because of the folks&#039; behavior. 
Personally I still slightly fear talking to my &#039;superiors&#039;, witch is a bit funny, as I have been in society 14 years now. I guess I am bit envous too, as I can not do anything (aka crafts) as well as I&#039;d like to. I seem to talk to my laurels etc better gifted folk only when I have something to ask about their area of expertice. Oh well, maybe I am just shy or something... I can imagine how scared &#039;newbies&#039; can sometimes be, If I get dreads after 14 years, they must be really scared...
I have too many allergies myself, and I have figured out one way to make sure I have something to eat at events, I simply slave myself at the kitchen whole weekend. I like cooking a lot (and I am pretty good at it too) within last 3 years I have attended only one event where I have not been working at all, and that time I hardly got my tummy full. Most of the cooks do take care of us &#039;demanding customers&#039; pretty well, but I have seen some, who only caters for her/his own allergies and &#039;give a shit&#039; to others. (note: these persons are not SCAdians) I can understand, if feastocrats don&#039;t always make, for example, versions of non-carb dishes etc, but forgetting lifetreathening allergies is something different totally. 
Actually I don&#039;t have anything new to say about &#039;making things for awards&#039;. I have seen some people &#039;always&#039; getting new awards etc, but most of them are well-earned. There might be a &#039;slightly blind eye&#039; for new talents, but I guess that&#039;s mostly due Scandinavian mentality about &#039;showing off&#039; (or lack of it). People who whine about there &#039;award-collectors&#039; should start to make something themselfs and they might have change to get shiny rewards themself. (For me it took 13 years to get any award xD and I only have Green virvaliekki and AoA. Althou apparently there was years of delay...) 
I hope my babble is somewhat understanable. It&#039;s a bit hard to put down all the things I feel/think atm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally have time to comment this post&#8230;.</p>
<p>I 99% agree with your thoughts and others have wrote down pretty interesting and concuring comments. It&#8217;s good to see I have not been the only one, who have been less active because of the folks&#8217; behavior.<br />
Personally I still slightly fear talking to my &#8216;superiors&#8217;, witch is a bit funny, as I have been in society 14 years now. I guess I am bit envous too, as I can not do anything (aka crafts) as well as I&#8217;d like to. I seem to talk to my laurels etc better gifted folk only when I have something to ask about their area of expertice. Oh well, maybe I am just shy or something&#8230; I can imagine how scared &#8216;newbies&#8217; can sometimes be, If I get dreads after 14 years, they must be really scared&#8230;<br />
I have too many allergies myself, and I have figured out one way to make sure I have something to eat at events, I simply slave myself at the kitchen whole weekend. I like cooking a lot (and I am pretty good at it too) within last 3 years I have attended only one event where I have not been working at all, and that time I hardly got my tummy full. Most of the cooks do take care of us &#8216;demanding customers&#8217; pretty well, but I have seen some, who only caters for her/his own allergies and &#8216;give a shit&#8217; to others. (note: these persons are not SCAdians) I can understand, if feastocrats don&#8217;t always make, for example, versions of non-carb dishes etc, but forgetting lifetreathening allergies is something different totally.<br />
Actually I don&#8217;t have anything new to say about &#8216;making things for awards&#8217;. I have seen some people &#8216;always&#8217; getting new awards etc, but most of them are well-earned. There might be a &#8216;slightly blind eye&#8217; for new talents, but I guess that&#8217;s mostly due Scandinavian mentality about &#8216;showing off&#8217; (or lack of it). People who whine about there &#8216;award-collectors&#8217; should start to make something themselfs and they might have change to get shiny rewards themself. (For me it took 13 years to get any award xD and I only have Green virvaliekki and AoA. Althou apparently there was years of delay&#8230;)<br />
I hope my babble is somewhat understanable. It&#8217;s a bit hard to put down all the things I feel/think atm.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Katheryn Hebenstreitz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katheryn Hebenstreitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am so happy to hear that you have found the fun in the SCA again!
And it is completely as you say – it is by doing that you also recieve.
I have also been yelled at by a friend that thought I was just ass kissing. But while this friend was out of the SCA – my SCA life changed. I started traveling to Pennsic, I made new friends (who happened to be peers), I was made a Pelican, I did a lot of retaining… Also, those that think that becoming a peer means you&#039;re done and can quit working are terribly wrong. Becoming a peer quite often means lots more work!
Sometimes those that take a break also forget that those who stayed made progress and moved on.
Me and my friend are ok now. 
And since then I have also been made a Laurel.
And I hope that I am aproachable and welcoming. 
And I hope that no one gets scolded for talking to me!
Peers are (usually) not stupid. It is pretty obvious when someone is only fishing for elevation.... ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so happy to hear that you have found the fun in the SCA again!<br />
And it is completely as you say – it is by doing that you also recieve.<br />
I have also been yelled at by a friend that thought I was just ass kissing. But while this friend was out of the SCA – my SCA life changed. I started traveling to Pennsic, I made new friends (who happened to be peers), I was made a Pelican, I did a lot of retaining… Also, those that think that becoming a peer means you&#8217;re done and can quit working are terribly wrong. Becoming a peer quite often means lots more work!<br />
Sometimes those that take a break also forget that those who stayed made progress and moved on.<br />
Me and my friend are ok now.<br />
And since then I have also been made a Laurel.<br />
And I hope that I am aproachable and welcoming.<br />
And I hope that no one gets scolded for talking to me!<br />
Peers are (usually) not stupid. It is pretty obvious when someone is only fishing for elevation&#8230;. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Teadoir</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teadoir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To echo others, an interesting post. After some 23 years or so in the Society, I definitely know what you&#039;re talking about. (Although as an aside I have to say I was flabbergasted by the concept of the Jante Law, being as it&#039;s almost the opposite of what we understand of Viking age society in these countries, what a turn around...)  I&#039;ve over heard people talking about having &#039;awards necklaces&#039; made, you know, with spots for all their &#039;cookies&#039; as they receive them? That is of course a poor attitude. Like wise the people that want to ignore anyone who doesn&#039;t have  a peerage because they can do nothing for them. Those people DO exist, but I choose to think that the majority of folks are NOT like that. As you say, the effort that most put into their craft, be it fighting, A&amp;S, or service, is disproportionate to the accolades received. Belt/Hat chasing is the other charge that goes hand in hand with the &#039;Oh, they&#039;re only doing *x* to get an award&#039;. Recently I&#039;ve been had friends &#039;jokingly&#039; call me a sycophant for hanging with the local prince and princess. &quot;Uh, guys, you DO remember that they brought my WIFE into the SCA right? They&#039;re our FRIENDS?&quot; And there&#039;s the simple fact that peers and such tend to be fun to hang out with, BECAUSE THEY GOT TO BE PEERS BY DOING INTERESTING STUFF. I spent 10 years after I moved from Caid to Antir hanging out with fringy households. They can be fun, and that&#039;s who I knew. But by the end of that time, I was loosing interest in the SCA. Even though our household had an incredible period encampment (we won an award or two) we never got involved in anything outside of our group, and it got DULL. My wife and I have since felt (on good terms) and have gotten really involved. I joined the Tourney Circuit (a tourney a month, Jan through Dec), we did a stint on retinue, I&#039;m looking for a laurel to apprentice to, talking to our seneschal about teaching classes on garb making, all kinds of stuff, and having a BLAST again! And I know some of my old friends think we&#039;re &#039;hat chasing&#039; and never congratulated my wife on her AoA or me for my GoA. This while they are loosing steam and went to only one event last year. At least one friend in a drunken fit admitted that he was jealous. I wish that rather than being sour, people would just step up and have FUN. Get involved, you might like it! Learn something, push yourself! Who knows, YOU might be the next person to get tapped on the shoulder for an award.

On the topic of people and their sense of entitlement, we had an event this past season where there was no potable water on site. The county was being jerky, and were imposing a ridiculous tax on the water truck. Rather than charge an exorbitant gate fee, the autocrats simply decided to have no water. They explained the fact and the reasons for it well in advance. And lordy, but people started to WHINE on the kingdom list. Myself, I consider this an AMENITY. Haveing water on site is lovely. But I remember back in the day, you rarely had water on site, and always had to bring your own. I still do it as a mater of  course. I mean, we&#039;re CAMPING. I&#039;m not willing to autocrat myself, so when the autocrats say this is all we can provide, we tried our best, I generally nod my head and say thank you, I&#039;ll take responsibility for the rest myself. I get it, this isn&#039;t a 5 star cruse package I bought. Relax! Have fun! I know I&#039;m going to... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To echo others, an interesting post. After some 23 years or so in the Society, I definitely know what you&#8217;re talking about. (Although as an aside I have to say I was flabbergasted by the concept of the Jante Law, being as it&#8217;s almost the opposite of what we understand of Viking age society in these countries, what a turn around&#8230;)  I&#8217;ve over heard people talking about having &#8216;awards necklaces&#8217; made, you know, with spots for all their &#8216;cookies&#8217; as they receive them? That is of course a poor attitude. Like wise the people that want to ignore anyone who doesn&#8217;t have  a peerage because they can do nothing for them. Those people DO exist, but I choose to think that the majority of folks are NOT like that. As you say, the effort that most put into their craft, be it fighting, A&amp;S, or service, is disproportionate to the accolades received. Belt/Hat chasing is the other charge that goes hand in hand with the &#8216;Oh, they&#8217;re only doing *x* to get an award&#8217;. Recently I&#8217;ve been had friends &#8216;jokingly&#8217; call me a sycophant for hanging with the local prince and princess. &#8220;Uh, guys, you DO remember that they brought my WIFE into the SCA right? They&#8217;re our FRIENDS?&#8221; And there&#8217;s the simple fact that peers and such tend to be fun to hang out with, BECAUSE THEY GOT TO BE PEERS BY DOING INTERESTING STUFF. I spent 10 years after I moved from Caid to Antir hanging out with fringy households. They can be fun, and that&#8217;s who I knew. But by the end of that time, I was loosing interest in the SCA. Even though our household had an incredible period encampment (we won an award or two) we never got involved in anything outside of our group, and it got DULL. My wife and I have since felt (on good terms) and have gotten really involved. I joined the Tourney Circuit (a tourney a month, Jan through Dec), we did a stint on retinue, I&#8217;m looking for a laurel to apprentice to, talking to our seneschal about teaching classes on garb making, all kinds of stuff, and having a BLAST again! And I know some of my old friends think we&#8217;re &#8216;hat chasing&#8217; and never congratulated my wife on her AoA or me for my GoA. This while they are loosing steam and went to only one event last year. At least one friend in a drunken fit admitted that he was jealous. I wish that rather than being sour, people would just step up and have FUN. Get involved, you might like it! Learn something, push yourself! Who knows, YOU might be the next person to get tapped on the shoulder for an award.</p>
<p>On the topic of people and their sense of entitlement, we had an event this past season where there was no potable water on site. The county was being jerky, and were imposing a ridiculous tax on the water truck. Rather than charge an exorbitant gate fee, the autocrats simply decided to have no water. They explained the fact and the reasons for it well in advance. And lordy, but people started to WHINE on the kingdom list. Myself, I consider this an AMENITY. Haveing water on site is lovely. But I remember back in the day, you rarely had water on site, and always had to bring your own. I still do it as a mater of  course. I mean, we&#8217;re CAMPING. I&#8217;m not willing to autocrat myself, so when the autocrats say this is all we can provide, we tried our best, I generally nod my head and say thank you, I&#8217;ll take responsibility for the rest myself. I get it, this isn&#8217;t a 5 star cruse package I bought. Relax! Have fun! I know I&#8217;m going to&#8230; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Zhara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zhara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for posting this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes we forget… by Katheryn Hebenstreitz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katheryn Hebenstreitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually have written a post on something similar to what you&#039;re talking about here!
It is a post about being good at everything.
If you have the time – read it – I think we&#039;re on the same page when it comes to this!
http://textiletimetravels.org/2010/10/17/about-being-good-at-everything/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have written a post on something similar to what you&#8217;re talking about here!<br />
It is a post about being good at everything.<br />
If you have the time – read it – I think we&#8217;re on the same page when it comes to this!<br />
<a href="http://textiletimetravels.org/2010/10/17/about-being-good-at-everything/" rel="nofollow">http://textiletimetravels.org/2010/10/17/about-being-good-at-everything/</a></p>
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